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Tucker’s interview with Mike Benz is extremely vital. Exposing the deep state which is basically trying to prop up our present, considerably Jewish elites on the expense of populism and Trump. This utterly vindicates the skeptics of the 2020 election by exhibiting that any social media messages doubting mail-in ballots or drop packing containers have been deleted or prevented from extensive distribution. The watershed second for the safety state-censorship regime was the 2016 election. The censorship-color revolution regime was already in place however primarily directed in opposition to international international locations, such because the Maidan coup of 2014, sponsored by the CIA and staffed by neocons like Victoria Nuland with their atavistic hatred of Russia. However it sped up dramatically after Trump was elected, notably due to his non-interventionist international coverage statements — anathema to the neocons who management U.S. international coverage. The 2020 election and the Covid panic starting in 2019 resulted in huge censorship and channeling of knowledge on the web, however now directed at home “disinformation” outlined now as something that would disrupt elite consensus, particularly on Covid in addition to mail-in ballots and drop packing containers for ballots, and run by the Division of Homeland Safety. The outcome: “You might actually be in your bathroom seat at 9:30 on a Thursday evening and tweet, “I feel that Mail-In ballots are illegitimate,” and also you have been primarily then caught up within the crosshairs of the Division of Homeland Safety, classifying you as conducting a cyberattack on U.S. essential infrastructure since you have been doing misinformation on-line within the cyber realm and misinformation is a cyberattack on democracy when it undermines public religion and confidence in our democratic elections and our democratic establishments.” Trump will not be our savior, however he actually has the fitting enemies.I put up the transcript of the dialog in its entirety. I’ve executed some mild enhancing for readability and have underlined passages that I regard as most vital,
Tucker [00:00:00] The defining reality of america is freedom of speech. To the extent this nation is definitely distinctive, it’s as a result of we now have the First Modification to the Invoice of rights. We now have freedom of conscience. We will say what we actually assume. There’s no hate speech exception to that. Simply since you hate what any individual else thinks, you can’t drive that individual to be quiet as a result of we’re residents, not slaves. However that proper, that foundational proper that makes this nation what it’s, that proper from which all different rights movement goes away at excessive velocity within the face of censorship. Now, trendy censorship bears no resemblance to earlier censorship regimes in earlier international locations in earlier eras. Our censorship is affected on the premise of fights in opposition to disinformation and malinformation. And the important thing factor to learn about these is that they’re in all places. And naturally, they don’t have any reference in any respect as to whether what you’re saying is true or not. In different phrases, you possibly can say one thing that’s factually correct and according to your individual conscience, and in earlier variations of America, what an absolute proper to say these issues. However as a result of somebody doesn’t like them, or as a result of they’re inconvenient to no matter plan the individuals in energy have, they are often denounced as disinformation, and you possibly can be stripped of your proper to specific them, both in individual or on-line. In truth, expressing these items can turn out to be a felony act and is. And it’s vital to know, by the way in which, that this isn’t simply the personal sector doing this. These efforts are being directed by the US authorities, which you pay for and at the least theoretically personal. It’s your authorities, however they’re stripping your rights at very excessive velocity. Most individuals perceive this intuitively, however they don’t know the way it occurs. How does censorship occur? What are the mechanics of it? Mike Benz is, we will say with some confidence, the knowledgeable on the earth on how this occurs. Mike Benz had the cyber portfolio on the State Division. He’s now government director of Basis for Freedom On-line, and we’re going to have a dialog with him a few very particular form of censorship, by the way in which, we will’t advocate strongly sufficient if you wish to know the way this occurs Mike Benz BENZ is the person to learn. However right now we simply need to discuss a particular form of censorship and that censorship that emanates from the fabled army industrial advanced, from our protection trade, and the international coverage institution in Washington. That’s important now as a result of we’re on the cusp of a worldwide struggle. And so you possibly can count on censorship to extend dramatically. And so with that, right here is Mike Benz, government director of Basis for Freedom On-line. Mike, thanks a lot for becoming a member of us. And I simply can’t overstate your viewers how exhaustive and complete your information is on this subject. It’s nearly it’s nearly unbelievable. And so in the event you might simply stroll us by how the international coverage institution and protection contractors and DoD and simply the entire cluster, the constellation of protection associated, publicly funded establishments strip from us our freedom of speech?
Mike Benz [00:02:59] Certain. , one of many best methods to truly begin the story is de facto with the story of web freedom and its change from web freedom to web censorship, as a result of free speech on the web was an instrument of statecraft nearly from the outset of the privatization of the web in 1991. We rapidly found, by the efforts of the Protection Division, the State Division in our intelligence providers, that folks have been utilizing the web to congregate on blogs and boards, and free speech was championed greater than anyone by the Pentagon, the State Division, and our form of CIA reduce out NGO blob structure as a approach to help dissident teams all over the world so as to assist them overthrow authoritarian governments, as they have been form of billed. Basically the web free speech allowed form of on the spot regime change operations, to have the ability to facilitate the international coverage institution’s State Division agenda. Google is a superb instance of this. Google started as a DARPA grant, by Larry Web page and Sergey Brin once they have been Stanford PhDs. They usually received their funding as a part of a joint CIA, NSA program to chart how, quote, birds of a feather flock collectively on-line by search engine aggregation. After which one 12 months later, they launched Google after which turned a army contractor rapidly thereafter. They received Google Maps by buying a CIA satellite tv for pc software program, primarily, and the power to trace to make use of free speech on the web as a approach to circumvent state management over media, over in locations like Central Asia, or all all over the world, was seen as a means to have the ability to do what was executed out of CIA station homes or out of embassies or consulates in a means that was completely turbocharged.
And all the web free speech know-how was initially created by our nationwide safety state. VPNs, digital personal networks to cover your IP tackle. Tour the darkish net, to have the ability to purchase and promote items anonymously and to finish encrypted chats.
All these items have been created initially as DARPA tasks or as joint CIA-NSA tasks, to have the ability to assist intelligence-backed teams to overthrow governments that have been inflicting an issue, to the Clinton administration or the Bush administration or the Obama administration. And this plan labored magically from about 1991 till about 2014, when there started to be an about face on web freedom and its utility. Now, the excessive watermark of the form of web free speech second was the Arab Spring in 2011, 2012, once you had this one after the other. The entire adversary governments of the Obama administration, Egypt, Tunisia, all started to be toppled in Fb revolutions and Twitter revolutions. And also you had the State Division working very carefully with the social media corporations to have the ability to hold social media on-line throughout these intervals. There was a well-known telephone name from Google’s Jared Cohen to Twitter to not do their scheduled upkeep in order that, the popular opposition group in Iran would be capable to use Twitter, to win that election.
So it was; free speech was an instrument of statecraft from the nationwide safety state to start with. A ll of that structure, all of the NGOs, the relationships between the tech corporations and the nationwide safety state had been lengthy established for freedom. In 2014, after the coup in Ukraine, there was an sudden counter coup the place Crimea and the Donbas broke away and so they broke away with primarily a army backstop that NATO was extremely unprepared for on the time. That they had one final Hail Mary probability, which was the Crimea annexation vote on, in 2014. And when the hearts and minds of the individuals of Crimea voted, to affix the Russian Federation, that was the final straw for the idea of free speech on the web
Within the eyes of NATO as they noticed it, the basic nature of struggle modified at that second. And NATO at that time declared one thing that they first known as the Gerasimov doctrine, which is known as after this Russian army, a basic, who they claimed made a speech that the basic nature of struggle has modified. You don’t have to win army skirmishes to take over Central and Japanese Europe. All you want to do is management the media and the social media ecosystem, as a result of that’s what controls elections. And in the event you merely get the fitting administration into energy, they management the army. So it’s infinitely cheaper than conducting a army struggle to easily conduct an organized political, affect operation over social media. And legacy media and trade had been created that spanned the Pentagon, the the British Ministry of Protection in Brussels right into a organized political warfare outfit, primarily infrastructure that was created, initially stationed in Germany and in Central and Japanese Europe to create psychological buffer zones, principally to create the power to to have the army work with the social media corporations, to censor Russian propaganda, or to censor home proper wing populist teams in Europe who have been rising in political energy on the time due to the migrant disaster.
So that you had the systematic focusing on by our State Division, by our [Inter-Service Intelligence], by the Pentagon, of teams like Germany’s AfD, the Various for Deutschland there, and for teams in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. Now, when Brexit occurred in 2016, it was [it created a] disaster second the place immediately they didn’t have to fret nearly Central and Japanese Europe anymore. It was coming westward, this concept of Russian management over hearts and minds.
And in order that was Brexit was June 2016. The very subsequent month on the Warsaw Convention, NATO formally amended its constitution to expressly decide to hybrid warfare as there as this new NATO capability. In order that they went from, you realize, principally 70 years of tanks to this express capability constructing for censoring tweets in the event that they have been deemed to be Russian proxies. And once more, it’s not simply Russian propaganda. This was these have been now Brexit teams or teams like Matteo Salvini in Italy, or in Greece or in Germany or in Spain with the Vox occasion. And now on the time, NATO was publishing white papers saying that the most important risk NATO faces will not be truly a army invasion from Russia. It’s dropping home elections throughout Europe in two. All these proper wing populist teams who, as a result of they have been largely working class actions, have been campaigning on low-cost Russian power at a time when the U.S. was pressuring this power diversification coverage. And they also made the argument after Brexit.
Now your complete rules-based worldwide order would collapse until the army took management over media, as a result of Brexit would give rise to “Frexit” in France, with Marine Le Pen to “Spexit” in in Spain with a Vox occasion to “Italexit” in Italy, to “Grexit” in Germany, to “Grexit” in Greece, the EU would come aside, so NATO can be killed with out a single bullet being, being fired. After which not solely that, now that NATO is gone, now there’s no enforcement arm for the Worldwide Financial Fund, the IMF or the world Financial institution. So now the monetary stakeholders who rely upon the battering ram of the nationwide safety state would principally be helpless in opposition to governments all over the world. So from their perspective, if the army didn’t start to censor the web, each all the democratic establishments and infrastructure that gave rise to the. World after World Battle Two would collapse. So you possibly can think about that we.
Tucker [00:10:56] Could I ask.
Mike Benz [00:10:57] Later. Donald Trump gained the 2016 election.
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Tucker [00:11:00] So that you nicely, you simply instructed a outstanding story that I’ve by no means heard anyone clarify as lucidly and crisply as you simply did. However did anybody at NATO or anybody on the State Division pause room and say, wait a second, we’ve simply recognized our new enemy as democracy inside our personal international locations. I feel that’s what you’re saying. They feared that the individuals, the residents of their very own international locations would get their means, and so they went to struggle in opposition to that.
Mike Benz [00:11:24] Sure. Now, you realize, there’s a wealthy historical past of this relationship again to the Chilly Battle. , the Chilly Battle in Europe was primarily an identical wrestle for hearts and minds of individuals, particularly in Central and Japanese Europe. , in these form of, you realize, Soviet buffer zones. And, you realize, beginning in 1948, the nationwide safety state was actually established. Then, you realize, you had the 1947 act, which established the Central Intelligence Company. You had, you realize, this new world order that had been created with all these worldwide establishments. And also you had the 1948 U.N. Declaration on Human Rights, which forbid the territorial acquisition by army drive. So you possibly can now not run a standard army occupation authorities in the way in which that we might. In 1898, for instance, once we took the Philippines, all the pieces needed to be executed by a form of political legitimization course of, whereby there’s some ratification from the hearts and minds of individuals throughout the nation. Now, usually that entails merely puppet politicians who’re groomed as rising leaders by our State Division. However the battle for hearts and minds had been one thing that we had been giving ourselves a protracted ethical license. Leash, if you’ll. Since 1948, one of many godfathers of the CIA, George Kennan, at, 12 days after we rigged the Italian election in 1948 by stuffing poll packing containers and dealing with the mob, we revealed a memo known as The Inauguration of Organized Political Warfare, the place he stated, pay attention, it’s a imply previous world on the market. We on the CIA simply rigged the Italian election. We needed to do it as a result of if the communists gained, perhaps there’ll by no means be one other election in Italy once more. So. However it’s actually efficient, guys, we want a division of soiled tips to have the ability to do that all over the world. And it’s primarily a brand new social contract we’re developing with the American individuals. As a result of this isn’t the way in which we’ve carried out diplomacy earlier than, however we at the moment are forbidden from utilizing the Battle Division. In 1948, additionally they renamed the Battle Division to the Protection Division. So, once more, as a part of this, this diplomatic onslaught for political management, quite than trying prefer it’s overt army management, however primarily what finally ends up taking place there’s we created this international home firewall. We stated that we now have a division of soiled tips to have the ability to rig elections, to have the ability to management media, to have the ability to meddle within the inside affairs of each different plant of dust within the nation. However this form of sacred dust on which the American homeland sits will, they aren’t allowed to function there. The State Division, the Protection Division and the CIA are all expressly forbidden from working on US soil.a In fact, that is so removed from the case, it’s not even humorous. However, however that’s due to quite a few laundering tips that they’ve developed over 70 years of doing this. B al with the ethical ambiguities of censoring your individual individuals. As a result of if Trump was a Russian asset, you now not actually had a standard free speech subject. It was a nationwide safety subject. It was solely after Russiagate died in July 2019, when Robert Mueller principally choked on the stand for 3 hours and revealed he had completely nothing. After two and a half years of investigation that the international to home switcheroo befell, the place they took all of this censorship structure spanning DHS, the FBI, the CIA, the DOD, the DOJ, after which the hundreds of government-funded NGO and personal sector mercenary companies have been all principally transmitted from a international folks, from a international predicate, a Russian disinformation predicate to a democracy predicate, by saying that disinformation is not only a risk when it comes from the Russians, it’s truly an intrinsic risk to democracy itself. And so by that, they have been capable of launder your complete democracy promotion regime change toolkit, simply in time for the 2020 election.
Tucker [00:15:50] It I imply, it’s nearly past perception this has occurred. I imply, my very own father labored for the U.S. authorities on this enterprise within the info struggle in opposition to the Soviet Union. And, you realize, was a giant a part of that. And the concept that any of these instruments can be turned in opposition to Americans by the U.S. authorities was, I feel I need to assume was completely unthinkable and say, 1988. And also you’re saying that it’s there actually hasn’t been anybody who’s raised objections. And it’s simply it’s completely turned inward to control and rig our personal elections, as we’d in say, Latvia.
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Mike Benz [00:16:25] Yeah. Effectively, as quickly because the democracy predicate was established, you had this skilled class {of professional} regime change artists and operatives. That’s the similar individuals who argued that, you realize, we have to convey democracy to Yugoslavia. You. And that’s the predicate for eliminating, you realize, Milosevic or another nation all over the world the place we principally overthrow governments so as to protect democracy. Effectively, if the democracy risk is homegrown now, then that turns into, you realize, then immediately these individuals all have new jobs transferring on the US aspect, and so they can undergo 1,000,000 examples of that. However one factor on what you simply talked about, which is that, you realize from their perspective, they only weren’t prepared for the web. 2016 was actually the primary time that social media had reached such maturity that it started to eclipse legacy media. I imply, this was a very long time coming. I feel people noticed this constructing from 2006 by 2016. , web 1.0 didn’t even have social media. From 1991 to 2004, there was no social media in any respect. 2004 Fb got here out 2005, Twitter, 2006 YouTube, 2007 the smartphone and so. And in that preliminary interval of social media, no one was getting subscriber shifts on the degree the place they really competed with legacy information media. However over the course of being, you realize, so initially, even these dissident voices throughout the US, although they, they might have been loud, in moments, they by no means reached 30 million followers, they by no means reached, you realize, a billion impressions a 12 months kind factor as a uncensored, mature ecosystem allowed citizen journalists and unbiased voices to have the ability to outcompete legacy information media. This induced an enormous disaster each in our army and in our State Division and intelligence providers. And I provide you with an excellent instance of this. In 2019, at a gathering of the German Marshall Fund, which is, you realize, an establishment that goes again to the US, principally, and I’m don’t need to say bribe, however the primarily the delicate energy financial delicate energy projection in Europe as a part of the reconstruction of European governments after World Battle 2, to have the ability to primarily pay them, with Marshall Fund {dollars}. After which in return, they principally have been beneath our thumb when it comes to how they reconstructed. However the German Marshall Fund held the assembly in 2019. They held 1,000,000 of those, frankly, however the place they, the place a 4 star basic, received up on the panel and stated what occurs to the to the US army? What occurs to the nationwide safety state when the New York Occasions is decreased to a medium sized Fb web page? And he posed this thought experiment for instance of we’ve had these gatekeepers, we’ve had these bumper automobiles on democracy within the type of a century previous relationship with legacy media establishments. I imply, our mainstream media will not be in any form or type, even from its outset, unbiased from the nationwide safety state, from the State Division, from the Battle Division. , you had the preliminary, all the preliminary, broadcast information corporations NBC, ABC and CBS have been all created by Workplace of Battle Data veterans from the from the Battle Division’s effort in World Battle II. You had these operation mockingbird relationships from the Fifties by the Seventies. These continued it by the usage of the Nationwide Endowment for Democracy [a thorough neocon operation] and the privatization of intelligence capacities within the Nineteen Eighties beneath Reagan. There’s all types of CIA studying room memos you possibly can learn, even on CIA.gov about these continued media relations all through the Nineteen Nineties. And so that you at all times had this backdoor relationship between The Washington Publish, The New York Occasions, and all the main broadcast media companies. By the way in which, you realize, Rupert Murdoch and Fox are a part of this as nicely. , Rupert Murdoch was truly a part of the Nationwide Endowment for democracy coalition in 1983 when it was shaped as a approach to do CIA operations in an above board means after the Democrats have been so ticked off on the CIA for manipulating pupil actions within the Seventies.
However primarily there was no CIA middleman to random citizen journalists, there was no Pentagon backstop. You couldn’t get a narrative killed. You couldn’t have this favors-for-favors relationship. You couldn’t promise entry to some random individual with 700,000 followers who’s received an opinion on Syrian fuel. And so this induced and this was not an issue for the preliminary interval of social media from 2006 to 2014, as a result of there have been by no means dissident teams that have been large enough to have the ability to have a mature ecosystem on their very own. A nd all the victories on social media had gone, in the way in which of the place the cash was, which was from the State Division, and the Protection Division, and the intelligence providers. However then as that maturity occurred, you now had this case after the 2016 election the place they stated, okay, now your complete worldwide order would possibly come undone. 70 years of unified international coverage from Truman till Trump at the moment are about to be damaged. And we want the identical analog management techniques. We had to have the ability to put bumper automobiles on dangerous tales. Political actions by legacy media, relationships and contacts. We now want to ascertain and consolidate throughout the social media corporations. An preliminary predicate for that was Russiagate. However then after Russiagate died and so they used a easy democracy promotion predicate, then it gave rise to this multi-billion greenback censorship trade that joins collectively the army industrial advanced, the federal government, the personal sector, civil society organizations, after which this huge cobweb of media allies {and professional} reality checker teams that that function this form of sentinel class that surveys each phrase on the web.
Tucker [00:22:46] So, are you able to give us a, and thanks once more for this nearly unbelievable rationalization of why that is taking place. Are you able to give us an instance of the way it occurs? How simply and simply choose one amongst I do know numerous examples of how the nationwide safety state lies to the inhabitants, censors the reality, in actual life.
Mike Benz [00:23:08] Yeah. So, you realize, we now have this State Division outfit known as the World Engagement Middle, which was created by a man named Rick Stengel, who described himself as Obama’s propagandist in chief. He was the undersecretary for public affairs, which is actually the connection which is the liaison workplace function between the State Division and the mainstream media. So that is principally the precise nexus the place authorities speaking factors about struggle or about diplomacy or statecraft get synchronized with mainstream media.
Tucker [00:23:39] And I, might I add one thing to that’s somebody I do know, Rick Stengel, he was at one level a journalist. And Rick Stengel has made public arguments in opposition to the First Modification and in opposition to free speech.
Mike Benz [00:23:50] And, oh, yeah, he wrote an entire guide on it. He revealed an op-ed in 2019. He wrote an entire guide on it. And he, you realize, he made the argument that that we simply, you realize, went over right here that primarily, the Structure was not ready for the web. And, we have to eliminate the First Modification, accordingly. And, you realize, he described himself as a free speech absolutist when he was the managing editor of time journal. And even when he was within the State Division beneath Obama, he began one thing known as the World Engagement Middle, which was the primary authorities censorship, operation throughout the federal authorities. However it was international dealing with, so it was okay. Now, on the time, they used the, the homegrown ISIS predicate risk for this. And so it was very exhausting to argue in opposition to the thought of the State Division, having this formal coordination partnership with each main tech platform, within the U.S. as a result of the, you realize, on the time, there have been these ISIS assaults that have been and we have been instructed that ISIS was recruiting on Twitter and Fb. And so the World Engagement Middle was was established primarily to be a State Division, entanglement with the social media corporations to principally put bumper automobiles on their potential to, to platform accounts, and one of many issues they did is that they created a brand new know-how, which it’s known as pure language processing. It’s a synthetic intelligence, machine studying, potential to create which means out of phrases so as to map all the pieces that everybody says on the web and create this huge topography, topography of how communities are organized on-line, who the key influencers are, what they’re speaking about, what narratives are rising or trending, and to have the ability to create this form of community graph, so as to know who to focus on and, and, and the way info strikes by an ecosystem. And they also started plotting the language, the prefixes, the suffixes, the favored phrases, the slogans that ISIS, people have been speaking about on Twitter when, when Trump gained the election in 2016, everybody who labored on the State Division, was anticipating these promotions to the White Home, Nationwide Safety Council beneath Hillary Clinton, who I ought to remind, viewers, you realize, was additionally Secretary of state beneath Obama, truly ran the State Division, however these people have been all anticipating promotions on November eighth, 2016 and have been unceremoniously, put out of jobs by a man who was a 20 to 1 underdog, in accordance with the New York Occasions, the day of the election and when when that occurred, these State Division people took their particular set of abilities coercing governments, to, for sanctions within the State Division led the, the hassle to sanction Russia over the Crimea annexation in 2014. These State Division diplomats did a global roadshow to strain European governments to move censorship legal guidelines, to censor the fitting wing populist teams in Europe, and as a boomerang affect to censor populist teams who have been affiliated within the U.S. So that you had people, you had people who went from the State Division straight, for instance, to the Atlantic Council, which was which was this main facilitator, between the federal government, between authorities to authorities censorship. The Atlantic Council is a gaggle that was one among Biden’s greatest political backers. They invoice themselves as NATO’s assume tank. In order that they symbolize the political senses of NATO in lots of respects. When NATO has, civil society actions that they need to be coordinated to, to synchronize with army motion, a area the Atlantic Council primarily is deployed to consensus, construct and make that political motion occur inside a area of curiosity to NATO. Now, the Atlantic Council has seven CIA administrators on its board. Lots of people don’t even know that seven CIA administrators are nonetheless alive, not to mention all focused on the board of a single group. That’s form of the heavyweight within the censorship trade. They get annual funding from the Division of Protection, the State Division, and CIA cutouts just like the Nationwide Endowment for democracy. The Atlantic Council in January 2017 moved instantly to strain European governments to move censorship legal guidelines to create a transatlantic flank assault on free speech in precisely the way in which that Rick Stengel primarily known as for to have US mimic European censorship legal guidelines. One of many methods they did this was by getting Germany to move one thing known as NetzDG in August 2017, which was which, which was primarily kicked off the period of, of automated censorship within the U.S. what NetzDG required was that until social media platforms needed to pay a $54 million wonderful for every occasion of speech, every put up left up on their platform for greater than 48 hours that had been recognized as hate speech, they’d they’d be fined principally into chapter 11 once you mixture 54 million over tens of hundreds of posts per day. And the the secure haven round that was in the event that they deployed synthetic intelligence based mostly censorship applied sciences, which had been once more created by DARPA to tackle ISIS, to have the ability to scan and ban speech robotically. And this was a this gave no. I name these weapons of mass deletion. These are primarily the power to censor tens of hundreds of thousands of posts with just some strains of code. And the way in which that is executed is by aggregating principally the sphere of censorship science fuzes collectively two disparate teams of research, if you’ll. There’s this form of political and social scientists who’re the form of thought leaders of what needs to be censored. After which there are the form of quants, if you’ll. These are the programmers, the computational knowledge scientists, computational linguistics. Each college, there’s over 60 universities now who get federal authorities grants to do that. Censorship, the censorship work and the censorship preparation work, the place what they do is that they create these code books of the language that folks use the identical means they did for ISIS. They do that, for instance, with Covid, they created these these Covid lexicons of what dissident teams have been saying about mandates, about masks, about vaccines, about excessive profile people like Tony Fauci or Peter Daszak or any of those different protected VIPs and people whose reputations needed to be protected on-line. They usually created these code books. They broke issues down into narratives. The Atlantic Council, for instance, was part of this, this authorities funded consortium, one thing known as the Virality Venture, which which mapped 66 totally different narratives that dissidents have been speaking about round Covid, all the pieces from Covid origins to vaccine efficacy. After which they broke down these 66 claims into all of the totally different factual sub claims. After which they plugged these into these primarily machine studying fashions to have the ability to have a continuing world warmth map of what all people was saying about Covid. And at any time when one thing began a development that was dangerous for what the Pentagon needed or was dangerous for what Tony Fauci needed, they have been capable of take down tens of hundreds of thousands of posts. They did this within the 2020 election with Mail-In ballots. It was this week.
Tucker [00:31:04] I’m sorry. I simply received to have there’s a lot right here and it’s so stunning. So that you’re saying the Pentagon, our Pentagon, the U.S. Division of Protection censored People throughout the 2020 election cycle?
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Mike Benz [00:31:19] Sure, they did this. They oh, they did this by the so so there’s t he two most censored occasions in human historical past, I might argue so far are the 2020 election and the Covid 19 pandemic. And I’ll clarify, you realize, how I arrived there. So the 2020 election was decided by mail in ballots. And I’m not weighing into the substance of whether or not mail in ballots have been or weren’t a official or secure and dependable type of a voting. That’s a very unbiased subject from my perspective and the censorship subject. One however the censorship of mail in ballots is de facto some of the extraordinary tales in our American historical past I might argue. What occurred was, is you had this plot throughout the Division of Homeland Safety. Now this will get again to what we have been speaking about with the State Division’s World Engagement Middle. You had this group throughout the Atlantic Council within the international coverage institution, which started arguing in 2017 for the necessity for a everlasting home censorship authorities workplace to function a quarterback for what they known as a house of society. Counter misinformation, counter disinformation alliance. That simply means censorship. The counter missed this data, however entire of their entire society mannequin explicitly proposed that that we want each single asset inside society to be mobilized in an entire of society effort to cease misinformation on-line. It was that a lot of an existential risk to democracy. And so it however however they they fixated in 2017 that it needed to be centered throughout the authorities as a result of solely the federal government would have the clout and the coercive risk powers and [in] the and the perceived authority to have the ability to inform the social media corporations what to do, to have the ability to summon in authorities funded NGOs type, to create that media encompass sound, to have the ability to arm in a, you realize, an astroturf military of of reality checkers and to have the ability to liaise and join all these totally different censorship trade actors right into a cohesive, unified entire. And the Atlantic Council initially proposed with this blueprint known as Ahead Protection. It’s not offense, it’s ahead protection guys. They initially proposed that working this out of the State Division’s World engagement Middle, as a result of that they had so many property there who have been so efficient at censorship beneath Rick Stengel Steed , and beneath the Obama administration. However they stated, oh, we we’re not gonna be capable to get away with that as a result of we don’t actually have a nationwide safety predicate, and it’s supposed to be international dealing with. We will’t actually use that hook until we now have a form of nationwide safety one. Then they contemplated parking on the CIA and so they stated, nicely, truly, there’s two causes we will’t do this. CIA is international dealing with, and we will’t actually set up a counterintelligence risk to convey it residence domestically. Additionally, we’re going to want primarily tens of hundreds of individuals concerned on this operation spanning this entire society mannequin. You may’t actually run a clandestine operation that means. In order that they stated, okay, nicely, what concerning the FBI? They stated, nicely, the FBI can be nice. It’s home. However the issue is, is the FBI is meant to be the intelligence arm of the Justice Division and weak. And what we’re coping with right here aren’t acts of lawbreaking. That’s principally help for Trump. Or if, you realize, if a left wing populist had risen to energy like Bernie Sanders or Jeremy Corbyn, I’ve little question they’d have executed within the UK, they’d have executed the identical factor to him there. They focused Jeremy Corbyn and different left wing populist NATO skeptical teams in Europe. However within the U.S. it was it was all Trump.
And so primarily what they stated is, nicely, the one different home intelligence fairness we now have within the US moreover the FBI is the DHS. So we’re going to primarily take the CIA’s energy to rig and bribe international media organizations, which is an influence they’ve had for the reason that day they have been born in 1947. And we’re going to mix that with the ability, with the home jurisdiction of the FBI by placing it at DHS. So DHS was principally deputized. It was empowered by this obscure little cyber safety, company to have the mixed powers that the CIA has overseas with the jurisdiction of the FBI at residence. And the way in which they did this, how did a cyber and an obscure little cyber safety company get this energy was they did a humorous little collection of switcheroos. So this little factor known as CISA the and name it the Disinformation Governance Board. They didn’t name it the censorship company. They gave it an obscure little title that nobody would discover, known as the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Safety Company, who its founder stated, we simply [are concerned with] safety, we care about safety a lot it’s in our title twice. And all people form of closed their eyes and pretended, you realize, that’s what it was. However it was created by act of Congress in 2018 due to the perceived risk that Russia had hacked the 2016 election, had bodily hacked it. And so we would have liked the cyber safety energy, to have the ability to take care of that. And primarily on the heels of a CIA memo on January sixth, 2017, and a similar day, DHS government order on January sixth, 2017, arguing that Russia had interfered within the 2016 election and a DHS mandate, saying that elections at the moment are essential infrastructure. You had this new energy inside DHS to say that cyber safety assaults on elections at the moment are our purview. After which they did two cute issues. One, they stated so that they stated, mis- and mal-information on-line is a type of cyber safety assault. They’re a cyberattack as a result of they’re taking place on-line. They usually stated, nicely, truly Russian disinformation is we’re truly defending democracy in elections. We don’t want a Russian predicate after Russiagate died. So identical to that, you had the Cyber Safety Company be capable to legally make the argument that your tweets about Mail-In ballots, in the event you undermine public religion and confidence in them as a official type of voting, was now you have been now conducting a cyberattack on US essential infrastructure by articulating misinformation on Twitter. And identical to that and now what they did then is that they … .
Tucker [00:37:14] So in different phrases, complaining about election fraud is identical as taking down our energy grid.
Mike Benz [00:37:21] Sure, you possibly can actually be in your bathroom seat at 9:30 on a Thursday evening and tweet, “I feel that Mail-In ballots are illegitimate.” And also you have been primarily then caught up within the crosshairs of the Division of Homeland Safety, classifying you as conducting a cyber assault on U.S. essential infrastructure since you have been doing misinformation on-line within the cyber realm and misinformation is a cyber assault on democracy when it undermines public religion and confidence in our democratic elections and our democratic establishments. They’d find yourself going far past that. They’d truly outline democratic establishments as being one other factor that was a cyber safety assault to undermine. And lo and behold, the mainstream media is taken into account a democratic establishment. That may come later. What ended up taking place was upfront of the 2020 election, beginning in April of 2020, though this goes again earlier than. You had this primarily By no means-Trump neocon Republican DHS working with primarily NATO on the nationwide safety aspect and and primarily the DNC, if you’ll, to to make use of DHS because the launching level for a authorities coordinated mass censorship marketing campaign spanning each single social media platform on Earth so as to pre censor the power to dispute the legitimacy of mail in ballots. And right here’s how they did this. T hey aggregated 4 totally different establishments: Stanford College, the College of Washington, an organization known as Graphika, and the Atlantic Council. Now all 4 of those establishments, the facilities inside them, have been the place we’re primarily Pentagon cutouts. You had, you had on the Stanford Web Observatory. It was truly run by Michael McFaul. If you realize Michael McFaul, he was the U.S. ambassador to Russia beneath the Obama administration. And he personally authored a seven step playbook for easy methods to efficiently orchestrate a shade revolution that’s, in a part of that concerned sustaining complete management over media and social media, juicing up the civil society outfits, calling elections illegitimate so as…. All of those individuals have been skilled Russiagaters, skilled election de-legitimizers in 2016. So Stanford College, the Stanford Observatory beneath Michael McFaul was run by Alex Stamos, who was previously a Fb government who coordinated with DNI and the, with respect to, Russiagate, you realize, taking down Russian propaganda at Fb. So that is one other, liaison primarily to the nationwide safety state and beneath Alex Stamos at Stanford Observatory was Rene DiResta, who began her profession within the CIA and wrote the Senate Intelligence Committee report on Russian disinformation. And there’s much more there that I’ll get to at one other time. However, the subsequent establishment was the College of Washington, which is actually the Invoice Gates College in Seattle, who’s headed by Kate Starbird, who, is is principally three generations of army brass who received her PhD in disaster informatics, primarily doing, you realize, social media surveillance for the Pentagon and getting, you realize, DARPA funding and, and dealing primarily with the nationwide safety state then repurposed to tackle mail in ballots. The third agency, Graphika, received $7 million in Pentagon grants, and received their begin as a part of the Pentagon’s Minerva initiative. The Minerva initiative is the psychological warfare analysis middle of the Pentagon. This group was doing social media spying and narrative mapping for the Pentagon till the 2016 election occurred after which have been repurposed right into a partnership with the Division of Homeland Safety to censor, you realize, 22 million Trump tweets, pro-Trump tweets about Mail-In ballots. After which the fourth establishment, as I discussed, was the Atlantic Council, who’s received seven CIA administrators on the board. So one after one other, it’s precisely what Ben Rhodes described it throughout the Obama period because the blob, the international coverage institution. It’s the Protection Division, the State Division, or the CIA each single time. And naturally, this was as a result of they have been they have been threatened by Trump’s international coverage. And so whereas a lot of the censorship appears prefer it’s coming domestically, it’s truly [run] by our international dealing with division of soiled tips, shade revolution blob, who’re skilled authorities topplers who then principally descended on the 2020 election. Now they did this.
They explicitly stated the top of this election integrity partnership on tape, and my basis clipped them. And it’s been performed earlier than Congress. And it’s in, you realize, part of the Missouri v Biden lawsuit now, however they explicitly stated on tape that they have been set as much as do what the federal government was banned from doing itself. After which they articulated a multi-step framework so as to coerce all of the tech corporations to take censorship actions. They stated on tape, the tech corporations wouldn’t have executed, however for his or her strain, which concerned utilizing threats of presidency drive. As a result of they have been the deputized arm of the federal government, that they had a proper partnership with the DHS. They have been ready to make use of DHS as proprietary home disinformation switchboard to instantly speak to prime brass—All of the tech corporations for takedowns, and so they bragged on tape about how they received the tech corporations to all systematically undertake a brand new phrases of service speech violation band known as delegitimization, which meant any tweet, any YouTube video, any Fb put up, any TikTok video, any discord posts, any Twitch video, something on the web that that, undermined public religion and confidence in the usage of mail in ballots or early voting dropboxes or poll tabulation points on election Day was a prima facia, Phrases of Service violation coverage beneath this new delegitimization coverage that they solely adopted due to previous by authorities strain from the Election Integrity Partnership, which they bragged about on tape, together with the grid that they used to do that and concurrently invoking threats of presidency, breaking them up, or authorities stopping doing favors for the tech corporations until they did this, in addition to inducing disaster PR by working with their media allies. They usually stated the federal government, DHS couldn’t do this themselves. And they also arrange this principally constellation of State Division, Pentagon, and I.C. networks to run this pre censorship marketing campaign, which by their very own math, had 22 million tweets on Twitter alone. And I feel it’s on 15 platforms. That is a whole lot of hundreds of thousands of posts which have been all scanned and banned or throttled in order that they might not be amplified or they exist in a form of restricted state purgatory, or had these frictions affixed to them within the type of reality checking labels the place you couldn’t truly click on by to [the] factor [you wanted to look at] otherwise you needed to. It was is an inconvenience to have the ability to share it. Now, they did this seven months earlier than the election as a result of on the time they have been frightened concerning the perceived legitimacy of a Biden victory within the case of a so-called purple mirage blue shift occasion. They knew the one means that Biden would be capable to was would win mathematically, was by the disproportionate Democrat use of mail in ballots. They knew there can be a disaster as a result of it was going to look extraordinarily bizarre if if Trump regarded like he gained by seven states and, you realize, after which three days later it comes out, truly, the election switched. I imply, that that will put the election disaster of the Bush-Gore election, on a degree of steroids that the nationwide safety state stated, nicely, the general public is not going to be ready for it. So what we have to do is we have to upfront we have to pre censor the power to even query the legitimacy this took out.
Tucker [00:45:11] Wait, wait, wait. Could I ask you to pause proper there. So what you’re saying is… What you’re suggesting is that they knew the result of the election seven months earlier than it was held.
Mike Benz [00:45:21] It appears very dangerous.
Tucker [00:45:25] Sure, Mike, it does look very dangerous.
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Mike Benz [00:45:29] , and particularly once you mix this with the truth that that is proper on the heels of the impeachment, the Pentagon-led, CIA-led impeachment. , it was, Eric Ciaramella from the CIA, and it was the Vindmans from the Pentagon, who led the impeachment of Trump in late 2019 over, you realize, an alleged telephone name round withholding Ukraine assist. This similar community, which got here straight out of the Pentagon, hybrid warfare army censorship community created after the primary Ukraine disaster in 2014, have been the lead architects of the Ukraine impeachment in 2019 after which primarily got here again on steroids as a part of the 2020 election censorship operation. However, you realize, from their perspective, I imply, it actually appears like the proper crime. These have been the individuals DHS on the time [who] had truly federalized a lot of, of the nationwide election, administration by this January sixth, 2017, government order from outgoing Obama DHS head Jeh Johnson, which primarily wrapped all 50 states up into a proper DHS partnership. So DHS was concurrently accountable for the administration of the election in lots of respects, and the censorship of anybody who challenged the administration, of the election. It’s identical to primarily [making] the defendant of a trial, because the choose and jury of the trial.
Tucker [00:47:01] However you’re not describing democracy. I imply, you’re describing a rustic by which democracy is unattainable.
Mike Benz [00:47:06] What I’m primarily describing is army rule. I imply what’s occurred with the rise of the censorship trade is a complete inversion of the thought of democracy itself. , the democracy form of attracts its legitimacy from the concept that it’s, rule by consent of the individuals being dominated. That’s, it’s probably not being dominated by an overlord, as a result of the federal government is definitely simply our will expressed by our consent with who we vote for. The entire push after the 2016 election and after Brexit and after a few different, you realize, social media run elections that went the mistaken means from what the State Division needed, just like the 2016 Philippines election, was to utterly invert all the pieces that we described as being the underpinnings of a democratic society so as to take care of the specter of free speech on the web. And what they primarily stated is we have to redefine democracy from being concerning the will of the voters to being concerning the sanctity of democratic establishments. And who’re the democratic establishments? Oh, it’s us, you realize, it’s the army, it’s NATO, it’s the IMF and the World Financial institution. It’s the mainstream media, who it’s, the NGOs. And naturally, these NGOs are largely State Division funded or IC funded. It’s primarily all the elite institutions, that have been beneath risk from the rise of home populism that declared their very own consensus to be the brand new definition of democracy. As a result of in the event you outline democracy as being the power of democratic establishments quite than a give attention to the desire of the voters, then what you’re left with is actually democracy is simply the consensus constructing structure throughout the democratic establishments themselves. And from their perspective, that takes a variety of work. I imply, I imply, the quantity of labor these individuals do. I imply, for instance, we talked about the Atlantic Council, which is one among these large coordinating mechanisms for the oil and fuel trade in a area for the for the finance and the JPMorgan’s within the BlackRock’s in a area, for the NGOs within the area, for the media, within the area. All of those want to achieve a consensus. And that course of takes a variety of time. It takes a variety of work and a variety of negotiation. From their perspective, that’s democracy. Democracy is getting the NGOs to agree with Blackrock, to agree with the Wall Road Journal, you realize, to agree with, you realize, the neighborhood and activist teams who’re onboarded with respect to a selected initiative. That’s the tough vote constructing course of from their perspective. On the finish of the day, a bunch of, you realize, populist teams resolve that they like a truck driver who’s widespread on TikTok greater than the, you realize, rigorously constructed consensus of the NATO army brass. Effectively, then, from their perspective, you realize, that’s now an assault on democracy. And that is what this entire branding effort was. And naturally, democracy once more, has that magic regime change predicate, the place democracy is, is our magic watchword to have the ability to overthrow governments from the bottom up in a form of shade revolution fashion, entire of society effort to toppling a democratically elected authorities from the within. For instance, as we did in Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych was democratically elected by the Ukrainian individuals, like him or hate him. I’m not even issuing an opinion there. However the reality is, is we shade revolutioned him out of workplace, we January sixth’d him out of workplace. Truly, to be frank, I imply with respect to… you had, you realize, a State Division funded proper sector thugs and, you realize, $5 billion value of civil society cash pumped into this to overthrow a democratically elected authorities within the title of democracy. They usually took that particular set of abilities residence. And now it’s right here, maybe probably, to remain. And that is basically modified the character of American governance due to the specter of, you realize, one small voice turning into widespread on social media.
Tucker [00:51:04] Could I ask you a query. So into that, that group of establishments that you simply say, now outline democracy, the NGOs, international coverage institution, you included the mainstream media. Now, in 2021, the NSA broke into my personal textual content apps and browse them after which leaked them to the New York Occasions in opposition to me. That simply occurred once more to me final week. And I’m questioning how widespread that’s for the Intel companies to work with so-called mainstream media just like the New York Occasions to harm their opponents.
Mike Benz [00:51:43] Effectively, that’s the perform of those interstitial, authorities funded non-governmental organizations and assume tanks. Like, for instance, we talked about the Atlantic Council, which is, you realize, NATO’s assume tank. However different teams just like the Aspen Institute, which attracts the lion’s share of its funding from the State Division and different authorities companies. , the Aspen Institute was busted doing the identical factor with the Hunter Biden laptop computer censorship. , you had this unusual scenario the place the FBI had advance information of the pending publication of the Hunter Biden laptop computer story, after which, magically, the Aspen Institute, which is run by primarily former CIA, former NSA, former FBI, after which a bunch of form of civil society organizations, all maintain a mass, stakeholder censorship simulation, a three-day, convention. , this got here out and Yoel Roth was there. This was a giant a part of the Twitter file leaks. And it’s been talked about in a number of congressional investigations. However by some means the Aspen Institute, which is principally an addendum of the nationwide safety state received the very same info that the nationwide safety state spied on journalists and political figures to acquire and never solely leaked it, however then principally did a joint coordinated censorship simulator in September, two months earlier than the election, so as, identical to with the censorship of mail in ballots, to be in prepared place to pre censor anybody on-line amplifying a information story that had not even damaged but.
Tucker [00:53:19] The Aspen Institute? … Walter Isaacson, previously of Time Journal, ran it, former president of CNN. I had no concept it was a part of the nationwide safety state, I had no concept its funding got here from the US authorities. This the primary time I ever heard that. However given assuming what you’re saying is true, it’s just a little bizarre that Walter Isaacson left Aspen Institute to jot down a biography of Elon Musk. Unusual?
Mike Benz [00:53:48] Yeah. I don’t know. I haven’t learn that guide. From what I’ve heard from individuals, it’s a comparatively honest remedy. I, you realize, simply complete hypothesis. However I believe that Walter Isaacson has struggled with this subject and should not even firmly fall in a single explicit place, within the sense that, you realize, Walter Isaacson did a collection of interviews of Rick Stengel, truly, with the Atlantic Council, in different settings, the place he interviewed Rick Stengel, particularly on the difficulty of the necessity to eliminate the First Modification and the risk that free speech on social media poses to democracy. Now, on the time, I used to be very involved. This was between 2017 and 2019 when he did these Rick Stengel interviews . I used to be very involved as a result of Isaacson expressed what appeared to me to be a extremely sympathetic, view concerning the Rick Stengel, you realize, perspective on killing the First Modification. Now, he didn’t formally endorse that place, nevertheless it left me very skittish about Isaacson. However what I ought to say is, on the time, I don’t assume very many individuals, in actual fact, I do know just about no one within the nation, had any concept how deep the rabbit gap went when it got here to the development of the censorship trade and the way deep the tentacles had grown throughout the army, within the nationwide safety state, so as to Bouie and consolidated a lot of that, frankly, didn’t even come to public mild till even final 12 months. , frankly, a few of that was galvanized by Elon Musk’s acquisition within the Twitter information and the Republican turnover within the Home that allowed these a number of investigations, the lawsuits like Missouri v. Biden within the discovery course of there. And, you realize, a number of different issues just like the Disinformation Governance Board, who, by the way in which, the interim head of that, the top of that, Nina Jankowicz, received her begin, within the censorship trade from this very same, clandestine intelligence neighborhood censorship community created after the 2014 Crimea scenario. Nina Jankowicz, when her title got here up in 2022, is a part of the Disinformation Governance Board. I nearly fell out of my chair as a result of I had been monitoring Nina’s community for nearly 5 years at that time, when her title got here up as a part of the UK internal cluster cell of a busted clandestine operation to censor the web known as the Integrity Initiative, which was created by the UK Overseas Workplace and was backed by NATO Political Affairs unit, so as to perform this factor that we talked about at first of this, of this dialog, the NATO, form of psychological inoculation, and, the power to kill so-called Russian propaganda or rising political teams who needed, to keep up power relations with Russia at a time when the U.S. was attempting to kill the Nord Stream and one other, pipeline relation.
Tucker [00:56:45] Effectively, they did that.
Mike Benz [00:56:48] Nina Jankowicz was part of this outfit. After which who’s the top of it after Nina Jankowicz went down. It was Michael Chertoff, and Michael Chertoff was working the Aspen Institute Cyber Group, after which the Aspen Institute then goes on to be the censorship simulator for the Hunter Biden laptop computer story. After which two years later, Chertoff is then the top of the disinformation governance board after Nina was compelled to step down. In fact, Michael Chertoff was the chairman at BAE I’m sorry. And Michael Chertoff was the chairman of the biggest army contractor in Europe, BAE Army.
Tucker [00:57:24] So that you’ve blown my thoughts so many instances on this dialog that I’m going to want a nap straight after it’s executed. So I’ve simply received two extra questions for you. One brief, one just a little longer. The brief one is, for individuals who’ve made it this far — an hour in — and need to know extra about this subject. And by the way in which, I hope you’ll come again at any time when you may have the time to discover totally different threads of the story. However for individuals who need to do analysis on their very own, how can your analysis on this be discovered on the web?
Mike Benz [00:57:53] Certain. So our basis is FoundationForFreedomOnline.com. We publish all method of studies on each facet of the censorship trade from what we talked about with the function of the army industrial advanced in nationwide safety, state to what the schools are doing to, you realize, like I typically consult with as digital MKUltra, there’s simply the sphere of principally the science of censorship and the way and the funding of those psychological manipulation strategies so as to nudge individuals into totally different perception techniques, as they did with Covid, as they did with power and each delicate coverage points, what they primarily had an ambition for. However my FoundationForFreedomOnline.com web site is a method. The opposite means is simply on X. My deal with is at Mike Benz Cyber. I’m very lively there and publish a variety of lengthy type video and written content material on all this. I feel it’s some of the vital points on the earth right now.
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Tucker [00:58:48] It actually is. And in order that leads straight and seamlessly to my last query, which is about X. And I’m not simply saying this as a result of I put up content material there, however I feel objectively it’s the final large platform that’s free or form of free or extra free. You put up there too. However, you realize, we’re on the very starting of an election 12 months with a few totally different wars unfolding concurrently in 2024. So do you count on that that platform can keep free at some stage in this 12 months?
Mike Benz [00:59:20] It’s beneath a rare quantity of strain, and that strain goes to proceed to mount because the election approaches. Elon Musk is a really distinctive particular person, and he has a singular buffer, maybe in terms of the nationwide safety state, as a result of the nationwide safety state is definitely fairly reliant on Elon Musk properties, whether or not that’s for the, {the electrical}, you realize, the form of the inexperienced revolution in terms of Tesla and, and the battery know-how there when it comes, in terms of SpaceX, the State Division is massively depending on, on SpaceX, due to its unbelievable, you form of pioneering and saturating presence within the area of low Earth orbit satellites that, are principally how our telecom system runs to issues like Starlink. There are dependencies that the nationwide safety state has on Elon Musk. I’m undecided he’d have as a lot room to barter if he had turn out to be the world’s richest man, promoting, you realize, at a lemonade stand. And if the nationwide safety state goes too exhausting on him by invoking one thing like CFIUS to form of nationalize a few of these properties, I feel the shockwave that it could ship to the worldwide investor neighborhood can be irrecoverable at a time once we’re engaged in nice energy competitors. In order that they’re attempting to kill, you realize, they’re attempting to form of induce a, I feel, a form of company regime change by, a collection of issues involving a form of dying by a thousand paper cuts. I feel there are 7 or 8 totally different Justice Division or SEC or FTC investigations into Elon Musk properties that every one began, after his acquisition of X. However then what they’re attempting to do proper now could be what I name the transatlantic flank assault 2.0. , we talked on this dialog about how the censorship trade actually received its begin when a bunch of State Division exiles, who have been anticipating promotions, took their particular set of abilities in coercing European international locations to move sanctions on themselves to chop off their very own leg regardless of themselves, so as to move sanctions on Russia. They ran again that very same playbook with doing a street present for censorship as a substitute for sanctions. We at the moment are witnessing, you realize, transatlantic flank assault 2.0, if you’ll, which is as a result of they’ve misplaced a variety of their federal authorities powers to do that similar censorship operation they been doing from 2018 to 2022, partially as a result of the Home has completely turned on them, partially due to the media, partially as a result of Missouri v. Biden, which gained a slam dunk case truly banning authorities censorship on the trial courtroom and appellate courtroom ranges, is now earlier than the Supreme Courtroom. They’ve now moved into two methods. Certainly one of them is state degree censorship legal guidelines. California simply handed a brand new regulation which the censorship trade completely drove from begin to end round… They name it platform accountability and transparency, which is principally forcing Elon Musk to present over the form of narrative mapping knowledge that these CIA conduits and Pentagon cutouts have been utilizing to create these weapons of mass deletion, these skills to only censor all the pieces at scale as a result of that they had all the interior platform knowledge. Elon Musk took that away. They’re utilizing state legal guidelines like this new California regulation to crack that open. However the main risk proper now could be the risk from Europe, with, you realize, one thing known as the EU Digital Providers Act, which was cooked up in tandem with people like Newsguard, which is run by, you realize, which has a board of Michael Hayden, head of the CIA, NSA, four-star basic. Rick Stengel is on that board. , from the State Division’s propaganda workplace. Tom Ridge is on that board from the Division of Homeland Safety. Oh, and Anders Fogh Rasmussen is on that board. He was the Basic Secretary of NATO beneath the Obama administration. So you may have NATO, the CIA, the NSA, a four-star basic, DHS, and the State Division working with the EU to craft the censorship legal guidelines that now are the biggest existential risk to X apart from potential advertiser boycotts, as a result of disinformation is now banned as a matter of regulation within the EU. And the EU is an even bigger marketplace for X than the US. There’s solely 300 million some individuals within the U.S., there’s 450 million in Europe. X is now compelled to adjust to this model new regulation that simply received ratified this 12 months, the place they both have to forfeit 6% of their world annual income to the EU to keep up operations there or put in place primarily the form of, you realize, CIA bumper automobiles, if you’ll, that I’ve been describing over the course of this, so as to have an inside mechanism to censor something that the EU, which is only a proxy for NATO, deems to be disinformation. And you’ll wager with 65 elections across the globe this 12 months, you possibly can predict each single time what they’re going to outline disinformation as. In order that’s what the primary the primary combat proper now could be—coping with the transatlantic flank assault from Europe.
Tucker [01:04:16] I stated this 5 instances, however that’s simply some of the outstanding tales I’ve ever heard. And I’m grateful to you for bringing it to us. Mike Benz, Govt Director of the Basis for Freedom On-line. And I hope we see you once more.
